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Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:08 pm
by Autoberry
Teetee mate, how come i cant pm you bro's ??..... how is it going there now ?/.... take it you aint doing any beans atm bro ?/.... wat temps you got in air down there atm bro ?/ 38 in north America atm..... you must be up in the 40's bro no ??... ABx

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:07 pm
by teetee
I just sent you a test PM.

If that dont work, let me know, I'll text you my email address...... I got your number somewhere...

We're in winter here, so damn cold (7-8 degrees) at night with warm days (22 plus)... but in a month or two it all kicks off and temps will rise.... and rise... and rise.

Found a UK based seedbank (Bonza) that do a good range (inc DP), and have a number of 'guaranteed' delivery methods.... they deliver internationally to an address out of state, then send them via internal (not checked by customs...hopefully....) we shall see!

At present, the annual migration of humpbacks heading north, they pass very close to shore
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look at the amount of fish surfing in the waves.... possibly driven closer to shore by the whales?
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been looking at indoor as well as outdoor grow sites, but some of the predators here are hardcore
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Imagine seeing a plague of these all over your guerilla grow :lol:

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:04 am
by Autoberry
UPDATE; DesFrans Test Strain,

Day 33 Overall, Ie,From 1st Wetting Of Beans.

Day 29 Above Ground

Day 5 12/12 Flowering, Switched 12/12 day 24 FFWetting.



Potted up to 15ltrs, On Day 25, Thus;



no2 J. inns (Soil Based)

Added Lime Free sand, & Perlite 10-15% ea

& added 1ltr for every 3ltrs inns,

peat free, cocco based compost

zero nuted. To assist faster draining of soil. Due to elevated temps.

With the aim of improve moisture retention extra perlite

due to "heatwave" at 28c ambient !!



Gladly i now only run, 2c above "In House" ambient, due to massive silenced air flow through the 13.33 cubic meter grow space, height 2.3 meter drop. A 850m2/Hr KSA 150 Acoustic38db fan, pulling through the 150mm fan inlet, from a 1 meter long 1385 m3/Hr carbon pre filter 150mm, into the outlet pair of 150mm, pushing out to, 2no on Y piece carbon-filters, to ease back pressure on the fan, i have now converted to 4no 150mm carbon filters on 3no Y pieces, servicing air coming out the room, and halving the mild back pressure present from the increased flow from the new 850 m3/hr KSA acoustic low db fan............



This set up gives me 2c above ambient, the fan is set to drop back at 27.5c from full power, at 155w/hr dropping to 45w/Hr on tick-over, removing, on tick-over 250 M3/Hr ticking over, lights out, it still changes on tick over 18.75 time the room volume an hour. That delivers a superlative state of mind,....and air quality,.......... what ever the temp outdoor, or In-House, she will run the room 2c above , i will only be 2c above outdoor ambient, that is up to 31c highest indoor so far with outdoor at 28.7c, as a maximum so far this heat wave now nearly a month long, showing no sign off cooling yet, take back what i said about outdoor season this year !!...........



Do though, feel sorry for all the guy's on "HPS" running 8c-15c above 28c outdoor ambient s !! ie...above 33c =.SSD temps..ie,.. "Stomal Shut Down" 70% loss of somatic growth, as the plant try's to protect from to fast a dehydration. And heat shock to the root ball.



With that peace of mind, firmly in hand, and mind, and the Des Dames, all the pure air they could ever need,............. and RH climbing to 54% lowering my VPD to good limits, growth has, surged greatly, since topping main stem, i am quite pleased with my handling of the heatwave so far, it cost, but worth it. i have topped the main stem "Fork" too, now, and the 4 largest bows on each of the 4 "Gigas" Dames standing tallest at 80cm-90cmcm at 27 days !! the smallest is 55cm, the rest in the modes (Middle)range height.



Here they are 15 days after last update on day 18,.... with the "Euforia" Comparative Plant at same age to the day.... DP's DesFrans >>

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4.5ltr pot 60cm desfran
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95cm df 29 days above ground low feed low water high light life
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Euforia comparative.. she dont hang about either !!

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189 shots..... 25,000 lux at 28"
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They are loving it, leaf tip down curl right at end now slowing. They are drinking ok, good sign, satis dont drink !!............ there on 750ml per day sometimes 500ml, and drinking it all. got to put in 1.1 ltr to get a 100ml run off.
Ec is flower mush & microbase, (Low in "NitroGen"), Ph up 15ml of silicone, Ph down 1st with Phos,.......... at Ec 0.2 !! Starve em short !!........... but not batting an eyelid so far................. The Df is a sight for sore eye's at 29 days,.................... in another 30 days,.......... lord only knows the height, but i am breaking out the 12mm canes 6 per pot, 1.8m long 30cm in pot give 1.5m above soil cane............ i will need it. The bows are shooting along,..........with the most, "Sturdy" format for a bow,.........?? like 7-8mm thick at 27-29 days ??................

Like the bows know genetically, they are in for a great deal of weight stress.....?/.................. oiks scoobs,................. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXLLLLLLLLLLLL and large and then sum !! going to be my best yield yet, will be very difficult to beat this expectant yield,............. im feeling pregnant already !!................. every bone i my body and plant senses is telling me those bows know shit i dont !!........... here is the only pic out there of the DF colas at day 58 flowering and it aint finish loading up the sugars

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my rottisarre, turned 180' ea day....
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thanks for dropping in guy's....................... i am going to need a shit load of 12-13mm 1.8m canes, with the cetres steralized, so no bugs can crawl out from china !!.............. load em up............... Autoberry

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:06 am
by ledbud
looking good AB and as usual very good info.
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:46 pm
by Autoberry
DesFrans Update; Day 42 & 14 of 12/12

The Df stretch is slowing now, 14 days into 12/12. In adition, they have shown pre sex at day 12 !! 4 out of the 6 Df's.............

height is now 1.4m from soil. And 4 canes in per pot now. There are numerous 6'-8' bows coming off the main internode bows, and filling out nicely atm.....

The nute only Ec is still low @0.35 180ppm 2wks into flower, and no sign of any issues, leaf tip curl has diminished now.

I am keeping nitrogen to a minimum by feeding microbase mush only ie & EDTA trace elements Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid, quality micro mins they sure seem to love it

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Euforia comparative catching up, a little !! at 90cm from soil thats 50cm shorter same age....
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pre sex Micro pistillate calyx above bracts or stipule very early pre sex pistillate at 12 days 12/12, usually would take 20-30 days to show pre sex, post 12/12 in average photo period strains

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Staggering of bud nodes DF >>

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If the flowers build structure as quick as the main frame !! this could be at cloudy trich, within 56-60 days, we shall see, but so far the strain is breaking all the rules re xylem construction time and pre sex show at half normal time frame.

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Thats 90-100 glands per cm/sq Smiley54

With the canes holding the structure upright, light as allway's with pure sativa penetrates right down into the mid and lower levels of the plant. As the X3 led lenses direct 100% light at 90 degree from SMD mounted on the PCB. This is what i like about sativa, superb light penetration, into the plant.

Should be showing some basic flower structure in ten days or so. other than that, i have never seen a sativa do what this strain is doing, and at this speed of somatic deposition !........ Stunned so far...nxt update 10 days...... Autoberry

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:37 am
by ledbud
how are your girls AB.
THEY GETTING FAT.
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:32 pm
by Autoberry
UPDATE; (4 DAYS LATE).......Day 52 / 24 fwr 12/12....

Soz lads,................ been working away from home................... however, in goods hands, trained by me................... here are the DesFrans, Most of the 6 have finished the stretch at 1.5m, a couple continued so tonight i have had to bend over the taller ones...................inline with canopy of the other 4.................. Ec above tap is 0.4 Ph now 6.5............... very light drinkers@ 5 deciliters some times 7 before run off appears at 1 deciliter. A lot of side bows making it to the canopy zone, due to my early attempts to control height early on by using LED internode suppression !!.........

Added to this attemp is the veg feed NPK 3-9-12................ last 24 days fruit feed NPK@ 3-13-19............ this ratio is mixed by me to reduce stretch............... if vegged on NPK 7-4-6......... the sky is the limit !!

The first 2 shots are through the keyhole into a room with a cieling drop of 2.4m. deduce the rest yourself.............

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15mm budzzz de DF...
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Photon Led Art !!....... this is an Led only grow........ due to summer of '76" weather..... good job the Df is truly thermal hardy as highs have been 30c.... no stopping the growth though and no stoma shut down at these temps... essentially this is an outdoor plant indoor.. !!

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All pics from now on will have to be shown with numerous tops bent over at 45 degree bent down............... these will re curl upwards to form bent colases............. with other low bow tops pushing through the super-crop bends.......... will not affect yield................ could improve it due to more light on the spread of the tops and supercrop tops !!................ 7 wks left of flower.......... a lot can go under bridge in 7 weeks........ Autoberry..........

TeeTee Is back on 420 as TeeHee ??......... is that right Tee ?/........... how did you get on with soil Ph test bro ??.... atb...... AB

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:48 am
by LEDDWCRigger
Oh brother yea bend those girls over, they're begging for it. :grin:::: ;)

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:56 am
by teetee
Hey AB bro, you got a few Amazons in your jungle there mate!

well spotted on 420, Teetee becomes Teehee, and the idiots haven't twigged yet!

my utopia has been disturbed... the landlord keeps coming around to work on the land dammit, so I'm gonna get a 1.2 x1.2 tent and perhaps grow in airpots (or rocket pots as they're called over here) to keep water and electricity costs down. They do 1.5 L airpots for young'uns, then 8L and 15L and upwards... they use them for trees to get explosive root growth after repotting.

I will have to make up my own soil, potting compost plus 20% vermiculite, and I seem to remember you using lime free sand, epsom salts, potash and baby powder (made from ground down babies?) etc so I will be keen to find out more about your mix theory. I know autos dont like repotting but Ledbuds epic Mazar grow did well after repotting each time, so there must be something in it. Maybe with different mix soil at repot time with guano etc in it? I have no idea really, so I will pick your brains instead Bro!

Anyway, had a busy day gassing people, so its my turn to get wasted, :grin:::::

Re: Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journa

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:56 pm
by Autoberry
Alrt tee........... yea just pop em into some local compy and add lime free sand and water retainer 10% helps o2 into as well.......... put beans straight into final pot tee if auto's bro cover with cling foil and keep moist, untill hatch, keep temp aroun 23-26 if pos.............. just with a 4 pot jheli above from day one on 18/6 3 foot above em bro, and they will pop, feed root stim with ph'ed water for 15 days and then start ec at 0.2 @Ph 6.3 bro........... glad the gassing of people is going well bro............ bad one re landlord, is he hinting re 3-6 mnth inspections ?? can you clear this up with him it aint done over there bro ??......... atb AB