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OHS Update; day 63 only 2 months from 1st wetting, and day 23 flowering; by Autoberry; Dp Prem "G"

They have now started building trichs on the flower micro fan leaves. Which is mental, only 3 weeks into flowering phase. An omen for a heavy trich laden outcome. Some of the flower structures are building into 14" long atm. I can only wonder at the final legth and diameter of these flowers bearing 21% content.

Triching up this early, has only happened once before, and not this early either. So i am envisaging, this could be the largest fruit i have ever brought forward. Still can only wonder at the finished height of these OHS.

They are still on low nute input. 200ppm 0.4Ec tap TDS & buffer top up = 200ppm. Nute = 250ppm 0.5 Ec = total Ec 0.9 at 450ppm total TDS. Now watering at 1ltr ea/day1, at Ph 6.5 now. Room temp low is 21c high is 28 max. RH creeping up, reducing VP Deficit @ 58-62. 62% on wet rainy day's, usually 55-58%.
They are not batting an eyelid, or putting a foot wrong. The res is kept below 22c for o2 saturation, and root matrix temp reasons. But they are thriving on 250-285ppm, and no flush needed at end of veg this journal. No issues to report, other than terrific growth and energy distribution with these OHS... AB

Here are the flowers of OHS; >>

The pulled shots, 1.2m height average OHS





Close up OHS Flowers; >>















On low nute, the fans retain the correct color, with no curling up or down, or tip burn or flushing,
or def signings !!...... the genesis is performing to spec on low nute input, at this stage, after
a couple of runs on it, would have to recommend it. As it is of a higher conc, it last very well to.
Am inputting 'Microbase" & Bloom only now, and leaning towards a 1:2 ratio of this mix. ie 1 off base 2 of bloom...
nxt update, in 10 days, should have doubled the fruit size by then !! still 8wks left of "Bloom" nute !!... AB

Day 74 & 33 of Flower, 2 days short of 5wks of flowering; OHS;
So 3 to possibly 4wks left of flower, before 10-14 day flush starts;
Started Pk boost now at 1ml ltr, going up from there, to 250ppm last 3wks etc...
3 of the OHS have now showed 3mm tip burn at 400ppm of nute, and 200ppm of alkaline buffer & cal/mag, giving an overall Ec of 0.93 (Hanna),
and are just starting to show initial signs of calcium & magnesium lock out. Due to to higher Ph in soil, around or just above Ph7.
So will have to RO flush those girls asap, flush at 5.8 RO to bring down substrate Ph.
Even though i kept veg & early flower nute to a minimum, flush still needed on 3. But better than most of them as before.
After stripping around 15% of fan leaves, the extra light penetration has helped to double the flowers size in the last ten days since last update.
They are responding very well to 180 degree rotation daily, and even flower growth as a result.
Most are showing very slight tip burn at this stage, 4-5wks from end, so not to bad. Showing i could use less nute next time !!
Temps are, Low 21c high 28c RH 43-54 high. temps creeping up as summer temp ambient pushes in. 16c air plus 10c room background ambient = 26-28c !1 another 3c air and temps and Rh will be up there !!

The OHS large & medium fans are very rugged, like tough and thickish texture, like terain hardy !!
So far though, the low nute has delivered no issues, and has delayed flush, to half way through flower.
I would usually flush once after veg, and at end of flower. No other issues encountered so far with OHS >> 5wks of flower OHS >>

Fruit close ups 5wks flowering; Dp's OHS >>





















Pulled shots Fruits of Dutch Dames; OHS >>









They are putting on weight a a pace, from here 4-5wks left to flush, these should be hevy weight fruits,
have already fitted support canes for these fruits, as some OHS are 1.3m from soil. needs support for sure !!
The bows are trained post sigle topping, to be upright and quite tigh on the over diameter of the plant, each
under 60cm plant diameter, and "lollypopped" below, with stronger, longer lower bows due to topping main stem once @5wks, 1 week post sexing.

So far no complaints with these Dutch Dames de "Oranje" thanks for looking in guy's, nxt update 10 days.... AB

Your Dutch Dames are looking lovely as always Ab Bro! Great photos!
They don't sound easy to grow though, need to be a Pro before I ever give them a go.

Can you recommend a nice DP short flowering auto fem with a nice yield? I haven't looked at the site but thought a recommendation would be a good place to start...

cheers Bro!

teetee wrote:Your Dutch Dames are looking lovely as always Ab Bro! Great photos!
They don't sound easy to grow though, need to be a Pro before I ever give them a go.

Can you recommend a nice DP short flowering auto fem with a nice yield? I haven't looked at the site but thought a recommendation would be a good place to start...

cheers Bro!

it is a hard choice. But in the end, would have to go for 1st choice 'Think Different" XL yield, 2nd but can be taller still XL yield, "Auto Mazar", both nute hardy to 1.2 Ec near end of flower. With TD though, if you need 5 dames, get 10 beans. As a regresive trait of low germ, at 46% measured by me !! from experience with TD. It's 50/50 nature and all-round outcome is superb. if you want really short, and a belting sativa Auto, and something a bit diff, and easy to put up to it, then L yield, "Auto Durban Poison" is your fella...AB

AB's "Orange Hill Special" Update; day 84 12wks (bang On) Flower Wk 6 day 42 2wks before 10 day flush !!

WOW; The Dutch Dames, De Orenji have gone mental after bringing the "VPD" back into line, got RH down to 45-48 the diff shows, got temps back into range, with outdoor ambient soaring, got heat differential down to 25-27c and RH 45-48. Currently feeding 650ppm, broken down thus; 200ppm tap and AN cal/mag buffer. 250ppm of GreenAir Pt 1 & 3. Topped off with 200ppm of Pk 13/14 canazym added 1ml/ltr.

Final Ec 0.96 inc buffer. Water aerated de-& re gassed, brought upto air ambient temp thats RO & Tap combi. The reason is for using tap water buffer is simple, "Clorine" is essential for cell formation, but aint put in any pre bought nutes, due to "Volatility" but water company's chelate it. making it available to the Dames. The result is more powerful fruit formation. Also in Tap water, "Un-Bonded Calcium carbonate, & Magnesium" why pay for it when it's in Tap water ??...

Did complete 4 plain Ph'ed water flushes, on 4 different Dames, to check the "Ec Of Run Off"......... was very surprised at the findings. The Run Off Ec was 1.05. That is 0.09 above feed Ec !!..... showing the low nute input early on has delivered dividends. The Run off Ph was 6.8. Bang on the Fruitification Ph needed in the soil matrix. Soil temp 19-22c. In addition i have been watering plain Ph'ed (6.0) water 2 days per week, helping the dames to "Use Up" any retained salts in the root matrix.

And helping to pull back down the soil Ph, keeping it in the range 6.5 to 6.8 superb outcome. have hit the Orange dames 3 times with 100ml each of "Sprite" delivered neat direct to soil, washed in with feed. Fructose/lactose/Galactose & Palm Sugar "Carbo Boost" you cant beat it for Trich formation provocation. And "Beneficials" stimulation to release sugars to fruit.

They still have 10-14 days to convert Pk into sugars !!......... and fill out the bottoms of those 14" colas structures. Just started to show 3mm tip burn, but no "Tips Down" from pushing to hard. I have hit the nute "Sweet Spot" with these Orange dames for sure. The canes are already bearing the brunt of the weight of these fruits De Orengi.

I am certainly pleased i wont have to go much further into the summer temp rise, with these OHS Dames, as they are peeking around now. And RH & VPD are bang on atm.

Very pleased with these as we approach the final 10 days fruit formation, and 2 have started to finish early at wk 12, and are sucking back mobile elements atm into a finish. here are the dames Wk12 6wk fruiting. And they are 'Fruity" a Gorgeous Bouquet in the space just after light on, from these Dames...... Tuti Fruit Tropicana. OHS >>

The Fruit Close Shots Wk12;



































The Fruit Pulled Shots Wk12;


























This Is The Mained OHS 8 ball Colas LST












The Group OHS Sots;





looking great so far; This is the 3rd to last update, nxt is 10 days, then harvest shots to finale; OHS Superb; .... Thanks for looking in;..... AB

looking fucking great AB bro.
master at work.

Update; (Bank Holiday Monday) Orange Hill Special.
2nd to last Update;
Final Journey Stats; OHS
Ec 1.06 (600ppm) Ph 6.6
all other factors normal,
Rh 48. temp 25-28c Low 22.5c

It's been 10 days since last update, and they have put on 40% more trichome load. In response to higher Ec 1.06 & higher % Pk, in addition to a week of carbo load last week before every feed, that's black-strap molasses, at 2tsp/gal (4.54L). to aid microbial uptake synthesis.

Just a handful of days left on nute, before 10 day flush begins. So 15.5wks full term, to get max loading on the fruits 108 days overall. The Orange at 21% is very, very sticky, citrus & combined fruit tang to the resin load. Drinking is slowing down slightly now, but every drop is going to the fruits, which are very dense/solid, with low leaf to calyx ratio.

No other issues have been encountered, straight forward to grow, will respond well to a low nute regime, have only had to flush a couple of these Crystal Leiden Dutch Dames, i am sure they would go another week on nute, and have just started turning classic "Orange" pistils atm. Very pleased with this strain, very tolerant, vigorous high integrity strain. here they are, Orange Dames OHS >>

Close Shots OHS >>

Day "5" It's along way from this to day 100 !!

To This OHS !!






















The Pulled Shots OHS >> Day 94 Fwr 53 13wks OHS >>



















Group OHS >>>



As the Euforia was so nice at 90% sativa dom, the next journal will be, Dp's
"Power Plant" an old school 100% inbred line bred gynoecious true Sativa.
Thanks for looking in folks,.....nxt update ("Harvest") 14 days....... AB

what a sight! the stuff of many a daydream mate, I just wish I was on the other side of the planet!

I bet it smells fantastic in there

teetee wrote:what a sight! the stuff of many a daydream mate, I just wish I was on the other side of the planet!

I bet it smells fantastic in there

Hey Tee................ hope you are getting settled in down there now !!............ what is is like standing upside down bro !!............ warm & sunny "Permanently"....... the bouquet is resounding citrus & tropicana fruits............. and very Moorish man.............. looking forward to the taste test etc............ yey..........

Wont now be doing the Power Plant,............. as Henk & Tone have asked me to do a new strain "Test Grow" of a brand new strain from Dp, All i know is that it is a high sativa with a long stretch window !!...... sounds the usual XXL yield !!......... looking forward to that one for sure, beans are on their way as we speak T..... keep safe T.... AB

Ps; Christine legrand EU commissionaire, said this-morning that the Eu's domestic spending surplus, is the same as it was 100yrs ago in 1914. ie there aint none !! we are at pre 2007 economic level alright, like 100yrs before 2014 !!................ don't bother to rush back ere mate................ we are borrowing to pay Qatari interest, not paying anything of national debt, but increasing it every quarter bro !!..........it is currently 1400 million ie 1.4 trillion plus interest, = 1.9T,.... TeeTee...........steer clear of ere mate....... AB..

teetee wrote:what a sight! the stuff of many a daydream mate, I just wish I was on the other side of the planet!

I bet it smells fantastic in there

We Will Make Your Daydream A Reality mate.................. ASAP T......................... AB