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Looks like the pre-flowering flush worked... they are all progressing well.
In just 3 days, look how the tent's filled out...

I continued giving the EC 0.7 feed for a few days, and they are very happy. They are drinking about 7-10 Litres a day, and so I upped the EC to 0.8 last night, just by adding some Bud XL and not changing the levels of Base nutrient.
The run off was at EC 0.5 to 0.6, so I'll check that again tonight to see if they are OK with the increase.

So day 48.... here we go!

Glueberry is like she's on steroids....

Have a careful look again at the picture above, and find the green soft tie ring, it's just above the centre of the pot......

.... that's Lil Sis.... completely overshadowed by her dominant Sister. She has gone into a bit of a stretch though, so she wants to give me something.

Big Sis is colossal.... she has countless stems all stretching away...

She could have a tent of her own... she's 90cm x 85cm wide and 97cm tall.... and just 48 days into it.

I have decided to dust off my trusty Photon 126 LED.... vintage LED Hydroponics kit that helped me pull that legendary kilo from 2 AutoUltimates. Thank you once again, Muddy at LED Hydroponics!!!
The Glueberry needs more light, and the others could use a little more as well, so I also set up the 2x Skyline 100's as well...
Have a look at my LED collection...

I have some old Helios 2's sitting around somewhere... but maybe that's too much?

Anyhow, here's the others, starting with Toofless Alien...

She's filling out nicely, just motoring on quite happily...

Night Queen is also happy, and seems to have recovered from her overdose of Nitrogen and subsequent lock out...

Plenty of potential in her still......

Blue Amnesia is behind the others in terms of flowering, but she's coming along nicely....

... and she's starting to stretch, so watch this space.... she'll be a lot bigger soon!

That's it for now, have a good one!

Exemplary work bro! looks like the girls are loving the touch of those green fingers!

Keep it up, a pleasure to follow.

Looking good bro. Blue Amnesia going be big one.

Newgrow420 wrote:Exemplary work bro! looks like the girls are loving the touch of those green fingers!

Keep it up, a pleasure to follow.

Cheers NG, this grow is certainly proving to be very interesting, what with the cardboard growbox, the Siamese Glueberry OG Twins and the recovery of the locked out Night Queen.....

ledbud wrote:Blue Amnesia going be big one

.....now the Blue Amnesia is fucking me around.

Here they are on day 62 as a group.....
clockwise from top left: Night Queen, Blue Amnesia XXL, Glueberry OG and Toofless Alien

The ENORMOUS Glueberry takes up a good deal of the tent.... she could easily fill out the tent on her own.

She hides the Blue Amnesia.... here's a shot from a different angle, showing the BA in the centre back....

She is certainly XXL, and nice and green.....

......but I can't see ANY flowers..... and it's day 62.... all the others are blooming away, but she's still vegging......


Ignore the droopy leaves, I didn't have time to water her yesterday, so she's gasping.... normally her leaves are nice and up.

She has preflowers... I'm not seeing any bollocks.... so what the fuck???

I am beginning to think she might be a Photoperiod.... I'm running the lights on a 20/4 schedule, maybe this is stopping her from flowering?

I checked my bean count, and I'm sure haven't gone and planted some different strain.... the lovely DinaFem 5x Blue Amnesia cannister has 3 beans left, and I've only grown her once before.

The others have been on PK 13/14 for 4 days but I have kept BA on the same feed as before, EC 0.8. She's fed at least once a day, sometimes twice... drinks loads, and the run off EC is 0.5. pH in the 5.8 to 6.0 range.

I decided this morning to start her on PK 13/14 as well to see if that kick starts some flowering.... we shall see.

Anyway, lets get back to the others.... starting with that Glueberry OG....

She's a stonker... full of long bud filled stems....


Next, the Toofless Alien.... the Mephisto Special Edition is looking lovely, even though she's getting squashed by the Glueberry, she's holding her own...

Looks like there's gonna be plenty of that sugary sweet bud coming my way...

Night Queen is at the back, looking very colourful...

Her buds are probably the most advanced, but she's still got a lot of filling out to do.

I'm toying with the idea of getting another tent.... maybe a 1.2m x 1.2m to move the Blue Amnesia into and put her on a 12/12 lighting schedule.... that would give the Glueberry more room to spread out... I dunno, we're a bit tight at the mo, another tent means more lights, fans, filters and $$$, so who knows at this stage...

Thanks for taking a look, have a good 'un!

Lovely bro, they going be fat.

ledbud wrote:Lovely bro, they going be fat.

Cheers man, I hope so... been trying to keep it all as simple as possible.... but of course things don't always go to plan....

it's day 67, so we're getting close to the finish line......

.....for 3 of them, anyway......

The Blue Amnesia is now outside the tent, awaiting delivery of a new 1.2m x 1.2m x 2m tent.....

Here's a close look at those tops....


I'm hoping maybe a good trim of smaller stems and a bit of supercropping, flip her to 12/12 and I might get some bud off her.... she's 1.2m high and almost as wide, so I think it's worth a go.... I haven't found any bollocks yet.

The others are almost done..... especially the Night Queen, she's only supposed to be a 70 day finisher, and previous Night Queens of mine have always finished by day 80 or so.

here's her main cola...

The Toofless Alien will finish 2nd...

Plenty of nice sticky colas forming...

.... and this is the main cola...

As you can see with the Night Queen and Alien, I've had to throw a few stakes in.... they were so rammed in before, but now the Amnesia is out, they needed some support.

Finally the enormous Glueberry OG.... I had to take all the other plants out to get this shot.... she could have this tent all for herself really......

Now the Blue Amnesia is gone, Glueberry has more room to fill out....

I stopped giving them PK13/14 and they are on a standard feed made up of A&B with some Roots Excellurator, Multizyme, Bud XL and Bud Candy..... EC 0.8 pH 5.8...... no late Bloom Boosters (like Overdrive or Top Shooter) for this grow.... I haven't used any Amino Treatment (Silicone) either this grow... and I'm beginning to think that they're both a bit unnecessary.... and expensive.
The Blue Amnesia is getting the same feed but without the Bud XL and Bud Candy.... just vegging along.

Thanks for looking in, have a good one.

just lovely bro

ledbud wrote:just lovely bro

Cheers mate, they are coming along nicely. It's day 72... nearly done now.....

So I'm pretty certain the Blue Amnesia XXL is a Photoperiod plant, maybe she didn't take the Ruderalis gene, or something, I dunno.

Autoberry worried me that the 10 week veg period may stress her, but I reckon she'll be OK and not go hermie on me, plenty of growers seem to keep Mother plants in veg for extended periods, and I'm praying mine will behave.

I decided to buy another tent for the BA... a 1.2m x 1.2m wide, 2m high tent.... cheap but surprisingly well made.... apart from the spindly poles.... breathe on them and they bend!

It finally arrived today (10 days for delivery FFS) and so I dug out some old kit to get things going..... first, the old 4 inch extraction fan I used in the cardboard growbox earlier this grow, and then my thoughts turned to lighting......

I was already using an old Photon 126 unit for the main grow.... as supplemental lighting, but now there's one less plant in my main tent, I moved it into my new tent for the Blue Amnesia.... it wasn't enough to cover her with light, so I dug around some more and looked for my old Helios lights......

I think I got them back in 2012/3.... everyone was using HPS.... if you used LED's you'd get lynched online.... everyone telling you they are useless, don't live upto the hype, too expensive etc etc....

Despite all the 'advice' and warnings.... I went with LED Hydroponics..... I don't know why, but I think it had a lot to do with the knowledge that the main Man there, Muddy, has.... he knew his product, and gave the best advice on how to use them.

Then I watched open mouthed as Ledbud grew a massive Automazar with one. In those days. most growers were getting 3 to 5 ounces from an Auto, Ledbud scored 14 ounces!!!

I found my old (2x) Helios 2's and one Helios 6...... the Helios 6 was my beloved first LED..... the one they all tried to shit on.

But she showed them.... she showed them how to grow a kilo from 2 Auto Ultimates..... oh yes.

I could not believe it...they all fired up first time! Quality gear..... nice one Muddy!

I'll save the Helios 2's for later, but the Helios 6 and the Photon 126 are now back together like Jake and Elwood, bathing my Blue Amnesia in pure LED goodness.....

Here she is without lighting, and you can see how BIG she is. She only just fits in the tent widthwise, and there's barely enough room for the lights.....

I think I'll have to do some supercropping on those tall stems, and maybe thin her out a bit in the middle and then clear her out down below. There's certainly plenty of action in those tops.....

I am a bit on the broke side, so I'll be adding kit as and when I have the funds, but next will be a 6 inch extraction fan (Hyperfan) and a 6 inch T junction so I can divert some of the cool air supplying the other tent into this new one.

Then a Carbon filter.... luckily we are very rural, so that's not an immediate concern.

At the moment, I'll have to manually switch them off at 8am and put them back on at 8pm....

.....manually....

..... what a pain in the arse for a stoner like me!!!

I can't just run them off a normal timer..... I have to find one with a contactor in it.
I remember with HPS the cheap timers used to blow, and I expect it will be the same with the LED panels.

The other tent lighting is controlled by a Harvest Master unit.... pricey kit and way too many functions on it that I don't even use, so I don't wanna buy another one of those.

I've extended our rental lease by a month, so we have a few more weeks to play with..... the Autos will be all done in time, but this Blue Amnesia will have to somehow be transported to the new gaff while she's in late flowering!!!

That WILL be fun!

lovely girl bro.

Lots to see in this update, so here goes!

Let's start with the Blue Amnesia XXL.... it's not an Auto.... so I bought a new tent and put her on 12/12, as I detailed in my last post.

She was looking very active up top on day 72.......

....and by day 74 she was hitting the lights, so I shoved a load of long stakes in and supercropped the fuck out of all those tall stems.

.... giving me a nice flat canopy, and about a foot of space.....

It wasn't enough, and by day 83, she had grown a forest of stems, all hitting the lights again, so I got that sheet of 5cm metal mesh I used in my last grow, clipped it to some ratchet rope hangers, and lowered it down, click by click by click, tucking all the stems through the mesh, till I got it down to just above the the level of the previous supercroppings....

then I supercropped the shit out of her again.....

.... and I gave her a good clear out down below.....

.... and here's a view from underneath. You can see some of the first supercroppings, tied to the stakes.....

.... and from above the next day (day 84) you can see the ratchet rope hanger, supercropped stems tied down to the mesh with green cable ties and lots of tops all growing upwards again.....

.... and YES.... she's flowering!!!!!

The other tent just has the Glueberry OG and Toofless Alien (Autos). I started flushing the Night Queen on day 71 and took her down on day 76. She's dried and jarred with some Boveda 62's.

There's the huge GB on the left and TA on day 76., NQ is hiding just behind the TA

and again on day 84..... just the two now....

Toofless Alien has been growing quite happily, producing it's usual very sticky sweet smelling buds.

Two pics from day 76.....


.... and a couple from day 84........ she's now one day into flush......


Glueberry on day 76....

...she's full of long candy canes.....

.... and on day 84, she's yellowing up, and a lot of those leaves will fall off over the next week or two as she finishes up.....


The Toofless Alien will come down in a few days time, and I reckon I'll be flushing the Glueberry by the weekend.....

......the Blue Amnesia has 7 weeks at least!!!!

Thanks for joining the ride, you can get off now.

See you soon!