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Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:10 pm
by teetee
Welcome to my latest Skyline grow!

Many thanks to Dutch Passion Tony - he sent me some lovely Dutch Passion beans for growing a 506g Daiquiri Lime, that appeared on the DP blog.
I was so tempted to grow the Desfrans, and some more Night Queen would have been nice, but I decided on the Glueberry OG and Cinderella Jack..... 2 of each.

Auto Cinderella Jack is a feminized auto variety created in collaboration with Buddha Seeds. The parent genetics were selected exclusively on THC levels and nothing else. Professional lab analysis was used at each stage of breeding to confirm high THC foundation genetics over several generations and all individuals.
Originally this project began with selected crossing of Cinderella 99 and Jack Herer. The auto genetics came from the Magnum genetic line which ensures harvest quantities are well above average. With THC levels of 20%++ this is allegedly one of the most potent auto varieties currently available so we shall see!

Glueberry OG is a cross of (Gorrila Glue x OG) with a stable Dutch Passion Auto Blueberry to ensure the same taste and effect as her hard hitting photoperiod sister..... subtle Diesel hints and fruity Blueberry tones. Again THC levels over 20% are possible, as are monster harvests. @Hansbricks grew a 545g specimen, so I'm hoping for a good few full jars after this!

Back on November 26th I set up three 20L airpots with H&G Coco and soaked them in a EC 0.7 nute mix. I planted 2x Glueberries and one Cinderella Jack and covered the pots with cling film and some dark card, leaving them under a couple of Skyline 400W LEDs for warmth.

I would have planted another one, but I ran out of Coco..... not for the first time.

Anyway, these 3 popped their heads out of the Coco on the 29th..... spot on 3 days as usual. I ordered some more Coco, took about 10 days to arrive, so I planted another Cinderella Jack on 6th December.

Now my germination technique is almost 100% successful, only one time I fucked up and that was because I let the Coco dry out during germination. I see the surface of the Coco rise and break up just before the seedling pops up, usually 2-3 days after planting.

Unfortunately, with this one, the surface bumped up a little, but after 7 days, on the 13th Dec, nothing had popped through. I decided to excavate, very gently just to the side of the bump in the Coco. I found the seedling, it had doubled up on itself, and was growing downwards....... so I dug a little deeper, and teased out the head of the seedling without touching any of the root. I then packed in the Coco and supported the little seedling with a matchstick and finally put the clingfilm back over it to up the humidity.

Over the next few days I tried propping her up bit by bit, watering carefully with a 50ml syringe and by day 7 she was looking more like a normal seedling! She's 14 days younger than the others, but looking very healthy.

Christmas was handy, 5 days off meant I could get as caned as possible, but also allowed me to spend time with my loved ones..... my plants.

The Glueberries were getting pretty bushy , and needed some attention. I have removed quite a few leaves from the Glueberries, mainly to allow light into the depths of the plant, they both have gone mad branching out, and I want to expose all potential bud sites to the light, and maximise airflow. Ambient temps are in the low 30Cs...... Summer is here, and it's cooking! Temps in the tent can hit 34C even with LEDs, so I luckily I picked the only room in the house with an air con unit. I run it mainly during the mid part of the day when its hottest and it brings the temps down to around 24C. I have my lights on 24/0.

Here they are then, taken on day 28 (day 14 for the CJ2)....
day 28 group.JPG

The Glueberries are at the back. The 3 older plants each have a Skyline 400W unit, and the CJ2 is just getting spread from those 3 LEDs. I didn't want to give her direct light until she really needs it to keep my temps down.

Here's some close ups......

First GB1. She's gonna be the big one for this grow, so I've staked her out and removed heaps of leaves. Dutch Passion reports that this strain is good for SCROG grows, and I can see why. I've practically supercropped the lower branches, and it's tempting to throw a net over and supercrop the main stem and higher branches as well..... but I'm not gonna.
day 28 GG1.JPG

Next the GB2.... a tiny bit behind the GB1, but still plenty of potential.
Day 28 GG2.JPG

You can see how dense those leaves are getting.... I have taken a few more away since this pic was taken.

CJ1 is a completely different looking plant.... thin leaves and not so bushy, but loads going on in there......
day 28 CJ1.JPG

Lastly the CJ2, 2 weeks younger than the others....
day 14 CJ2.JPG

You'd never guess she had such a difficult birth. She is growing very vigorously, and 2 days later, today, she looked twice the size.

Another update in a moment........

Re: Teehee's Glueberry OG and Cinderella Jack with Skyline L

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:19 pm
by teetee
Back again!

It's day 34 for most of them, except the Cindy Jack 2 which is 20 days old.

Together as a group....
day 34 group.JPG

clockwise from top: GB2, CJ1, CJ2, GB1

Here's Glueberry 1 from above, showing heaps of tops.....
day 34 gb1 1.JPG

Viewed from the side, she again shows she has great potential....
day 34 gb1 2.JPG

Glueberry 2 is a tiny bit behind the GB1, but she's just as busy under those big fan leaves. From above, she has that classic square shape....
day 34 gb2 1.JPG

I really have to get in there to stake her out a bit and cut some more leaves off in order to make the most out of her.
day 34 gb2 2.JPG

Cinderella Jack 1 is really filling out. She is the biggest of my girls at this stage, and again has that lovely square shape....
day 34 cj1 1.JPG

She also needs a good staking out. Although she is bigger than the others, her stems are much thinner and not as stiff. I think she'll respond well to a good bondage session.

From the side you can see there's a lot happening in there......
day 34 cj1 2.JPG

The Glueberries and Cindy Jack 1 are on a House and Garden nute and additive mix made up of EC 0 rainwater with 0.2ml/L Cal-Mag, 0.3ml/L A&B (making it EC 0.5), plus 0.1ml/L Drip Clean, 0.3ml/L Roots Excellurator, 1ml/L Multizyme, 0.4ml/L Amino Treatment, and 0.4ml/L Nitrogen Boost making a final EC of 1.0 adjusted down to pH 5.8.

Lastly, the CJ2, only 20 days old, but so healthy and vigorous (and square).....
day 20 cj2  1.JPG

She is looking to be a big girl after having been rescued from the dead as a seedling.

I have her on an EC 0.9 nute mix similar to the mix for the other plants (except the Amino Treatment is at 0.2m/L), and she still doesn't have direct light, she just gets the spread from the other 3 plants' LEDs.

I rotate her by a quarter turn a day and tuck the big fans in which seems to be making her side stems grow a bit more.
day 20 cj2  2.JPG

Hang on a sec and I'll do one more update....

Re: Teehee's Glueberry OG and Cinderella Jack with Skyline L

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:25 pm
by teetee
So here we go, one more post, this brings us fully up to date, and I wont' get another chance for a week or so.....

It's day 41 and here they are...
day 41 group.JPG

clockwise from top left GB1, GB2, CJ1 and CJ2

A closer look at Glueberry 1 shows she's started stretch and is in early flower, hopefully all those lower bud tips should bulk up.
day 41 GB1.JPG

Glueberry 2 is also starting to stretch, I haven't staked her out as I just wanted to keep it simple and just remove a few large fan leaves here and there to expose the tips.
day 41 GB2.JPG

Cinderella Jack 1 is a big bushy girl, not as advanced in flowering compared to the Glueberries, but she seems to bee concentrating on growing heaps of tips and sideshoots. Early flowers are there, but no stretching just yet.
day 41 CJ1.JPG

Cindy Jack 2 is 2 weeks younger than the rest, so day 27. I've noticed this before when I have grown an extra plant a couple of weeks after some others.... the young 'un starts flowering earlier. This one is doing the same, so I am trying to keep her in veg as long as possible before she stops growing. Basically I have increased Nitrogen Boost to 0.5ml/L.
day 27 CJ2.JPG

Enough of the catch ups, next update in a week or so. Till then, happy growing!

Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm
by belfiore
look good my friend.

Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:24 pm
by teetee
Thanks Belfiore Bro, but I'm finding the Cindy Jack's to be a bit difficult. CJ2 is very poorly, I gave her a trim then she stopped growing and all her leaves went yellow, so I've put her to one side. I might have a go at reviving her, but to be honest, water is a precious commodity at the moment....

We don't have a domestic main water supply, instead we rely on rainwater, and have a 5000 gal tank under the house to collect rain, when it fills up, it pumps the whole tank up to the main 25000 gal tank up the hill, then gravity feeds the house. In the 4 months we've been there, that tank under the house has pumped up 4 times, to the main tank, so 20000 gallons has fallen on us in the last 4 months! But now the rain has stopped, and it's summer, so it's dry as a bone and temps up in the high 30's.

Plenty of water, you might think, 20000 gallons plus whatever was in there, it must have been full.

Then the landlord decided to get this Pauline Hanson loving (look her up) wanker from Queensland to make some electric fences, he stayed 3 nights in the jungle at the bottom of the hill. One morning, we were woken up by the sound of a boom, and a plume of white smoke...... he'd lit a camp fire and forgot he'd left a gas cylinder near it. :shock:

Anyway, for some reason, he pulled out a pipe from the main tank, turned a stopcock and let the entire lot piss down the hill. :roll:

Just before Christmas, the (normally very high pressure) water became a dribble, and then we found out what had happened..... anyway to cut a long story short, we had 4000 Gals brought in by a water tanker truck and pumped up to the main tank.... a drop in the ocean, but enough to get us through till the rain comes. Problem is that's chlorinated water from the nearby town, EC 0.1 as opposed to my usual pure(ish) EC 0 rainwater.

Still, it's lovely weather, it's scorchio the moment the sun comes up, and every morning I see this out the bathroom window as I take a dump.....

Each of the boards are 13cm wide, you do the maths.

Joanna the Goanna is a monitor lizard, one of many hanging round the property. This isn't the biggest one, I've seen one that looked like a bloody crocodlie wandering up the driveway once. I think it's because of them we don't see many snakes..... that's not to say there aren't any around, cos I found a python skin round the side of the house this very morning, and it was fat.

Anyway......... to summarize, I don't have enough water to give CJ2 the care and flushes and separate feeds etc that she needs :cry:

It's day 47 and CJ1 is slowing down, she started flowering then when the others started to stretch, she didn't. Her leaves are (and have always been) very thin and light green, and the new tip leaves are pale at the tips.... her flowers don't seem to have changed much this week and she doesn't seem to be drinking much either.
day 47 CJ1.JPG

She looks OK but she could be better. I might give her some kelp and see if she needs some micronutrients. I gave her a bit of a trim up before I took this pic this arvo.

The Glueberries are doing really well, GB2 first.....
day 47 GB2.JPG

She's stretched nicely and has some nice looking colas forming.

Then there's the massive GB1.....
day 47 GB1.JPG

in a way, I'm glad the CJ2 is laying low, there's not much room for her. The GB1 is taking up a fair amount of the tent! She has got heaps of blooms forming.
day 47 group.JPG

GB1 on the left and the GB2 at the back with CJ1 in front.

I have another Skyline 400W on order, so I'm looking forward to getting more light on the GB1. Fingers crossed there might be another monster on the way!

Thanks for looking in!

Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:47 pm
by ledbud
looking very yummy bro. you going have some nice buds, there loads bud site.
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Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:21 pm
by teetee
Cheers Ledbud, the girls are at day 54 now, so time for an update....

I was still a bit worried about the Cinderella Jack, so I made a lower strength feed at EC 0.9 instead of EC 1.0 - pH 5.8 and flushed her good. The pH of the first load of run off was pH 5.5. Looks OK on the chart........
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I think she just needed a lower strength feed..... she's been on the same as the Glueberries right from word go, so maybe it's that.... I have lowered her feed EC and she seems to be perking up a bit.....
day 54 CJ.JPG

She's had a little stretch, and is getting on with flowering.

The Glueberries are storming away..... GB2 is the most advanced of all my plants in terms of flowering, nice chunky early buds and a good foundation for some nice long thick colas!
day 54 GB2.JPG

GB1 is just massive.... 95cm high and around a metre in diameter all round.
day 54 GB1 1.JPG

and there's loads of good looking bud sites ready to fatten up and out!
day 54 GB1 2.JPG

You might see the old faithful Helios 6 in there giving GB1 a bit of side light action.... well, now I have a Photon 126 on the other side now to join the show.....

Basically every plant has a Skyline 400, and the GB1 has the additional side lighting.

Naturally, with that amount of lighting, I have temperature issues, what with the 30°C plus outdoor temps, I have to run the aircon almost constantly to keep the grow room at 24°C and the inside of the tent at around 27-28°C. The Glueberries are showing a bit of heat stress in the leaves, but that seems to be common with the strain from what I've seen.

I've upped the air intake and extraction fan speeds to bring in more 24°C air and extract more heat from the tent, and have added more and better air circulation fans.

Here they are as a group on day 54....
day 54 group.JPG

clockwise from top: Glueberry1, Glueberry 2, Cinderella Jack

They are all on PK13/14 for a few days, then on with the Top Shooter. I'm also giving some Bud Candy and Kelp (in the form of Algen Extract), as well some Bud XL and Multizyme. The Glueberries are still on EC 1.0 even though I lowered Cindy's feed to EC 0.9.

Thanks for popping in, more soon!

Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:27 pm
by ledbud
you killing it bro. with 1 more skyline 400 its going be big monsters.
i bet you going get over 1500g from that tent.
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Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:40 am
by teetee
I dunno about that Bro, only 3 plants and the Cindy Jack isn't gonna give much.

What do you reckon I should do with the new Skyline?

At the moment, Glueberry 1, the big one, has a Skyline 400 directly above, and the Helios 6 and Photon 126 either side.... The Helios and Photon are about 8 inches from the plant in places, and the Skyline is about 12 inches above.

I could add the new Skyline and give more light from above ( too much light perhaps?) ..... or put a Skyline either side and just have a Photon on top.

Then there is also the option of giving Glueberry 2 more light.....

what would you do?

Re: Teetee's Glueberry OG & Cinderella Jack

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:40 pm
by ledbud
have all 4 skyline on from top bro and i will start one more auto to fill in gap.
your tent is 1.4 x1.4 so 4 skyline will be perfect you just need 1 or 2 more girls in there..
i will keep Helios and photon as they are. i wont use them first 5 weeks but you girls are big and will sock up lights.
Glueberry will love 2 skyline for sure.
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