Dutch Passion New Feminized Strain 2014 Test Grow Journal

[Autoberry]

Oh brother yea bend those girls over, they're begging for it.

Done now mate, had to they where heading 2m way !!............... they seem to try and straighten em self after just 4-6 days though........ like from 45degree negative bend back upto 45 degree positive !!........... AB

[teetee]

just with a 4 pot jheli above from day one on 18/6

cheers AB, but what kind of light is a 4pot jheli?
my helios 6 and 2x helios 2's are about a month away at the most. I was considering getting an HPS to get started, but it would have to be air cool tube and that would mean another fan etc, so I abandoned that idea. maybe I willl get a CFL of some sort to get them going.

I'm also thinking of using coco instead of soil, either on its own, or maybe with 20% perlite, or 40% hydroton balls....

So far, I'm about to invest in:
1.2x 1.2m tent with 6inch fan extraction and 2x carbon filters on a 'T' junction, and 4inch intake fan. Will definately need mesh bug screens on both fans. I used to use ladies hoisery
airpots of various sizes.... 8L and 18L I think
H&G coco - prewashed and treated etc....
Coco nutes (prob H&G)
roots exellurator (H&G)
Silica, cal mag, pH up and down

maybe as the grow progresses, I might use a drip feed system to autowater the airpots.

The shop I buy meds from in Nimbin got torched last week, so had to do a car-park score instead.... cops everywhere man! but managed to get away with 4oz Cali Orange for £500. I need to get this grow going asap hence the autos, then once I have a few oz in storage, get on with some photo grows.

Sorry to jack your thread Bro, maybe PM me your thoughts?
ATB TT

[Autoberry]

Random DesFran Update;......... and imfo dispersal !!

Alrg Tee/Alpha/Rigger/LB bro's...yea, the Euforia, returned the best yet, reviews from people that tried it on a gift basis...............was the best ever feedback from anything i have ever done from DP bro. Think it is because it is such a choice sativa dom. But the flavor is unique to.........and so smoothe on everything !! and the smell when combusted !! 10/10........... think people prefer the sativa naturally, by outcome but don't know the diff between Indi & sati strains !!.......................... as when you start talking canna genus, it gets to complicated for most to comprehend. I could not resist putting a couple of Euforia's in with the DF's........................... Euforia in it's entirety is such a beut !!.....................

The Df bouquet is quite similar in nasal match, but with Sssooooo much more depth being 100% sativa comparative to 80% in the Eufo......................... The Df nasal punch has so much depth to it, it is truly indescribable, as such an early stage of flowering................ i can see it being a notch above the Eufo, the Df's being 100% RollRoyce sativa, of primordial gene line. By that i mean 1 of the 5 wild 100% sativa's found equatorial, found naturally in the wild in the mid 1800's. And the gene lime has been kept pure, and not introducing new genes by hybridization etc.

To put it bluntly the smell from this strain, is the sweetest, deepest, fruitiest, soothing floral, thickest, richest, most intriguing, potent at young age, philanthropic post lights out smell i have ever had the pleasure of "To Date".

In addition, at the start of this test grow i plainly stated that i would stress test these pilot test genetics, to see if the intersex gene was present in the darkest depths of the primordal strain. At day 65+ the strain test for intersex has passed with good colors, the test 2no separate Df's from this grow elsewhere, where topped at day 13 & 15 main stem, Then again on secondary bows, and then again. Confirm "No Intersex" displayed from this Df at all by day 65, when the window has now passed by age and maturity. Abused em and nothing showed intersex, "Confirmed" with this batch...........

Secondary, extraction was turned off on timer intermittently, and temps allowed to rise during the 8 day's post topping mains, post day 21 to provoke a reaction, the temp ceiling was 29-34c intermittent over the 8 day stress test. Nothing showed as staminate, by day 65. This proves that the staminate gene is not present, and has been line selected out over more than 5-7 generations. Thats a lot of work bredrens. And truly gynoecious strain. In adition i switched to 12/12 early as well at day 23, and not the usual day 35 etc............ no issues found there either.......

Somewhere around the 7yrs & multiple generations the breeder claims to have worked on this primordal genus. And the line it came from for 27yrs. Time enough to get true breeding lines. I recon you could top these at 6"-10" and she would not throw staminate............... further more the top end pre flower stretch in a sog would fill to the brim, and then some the fattest SOG/Scrog ever seen i recon.......................... ie a 'Universal Soldier" of a gene line..................... you could abuse the stretch and she wont even bat an eye............... in fact she will make it a flowering advantage..

Such a great candidate for the 4 way LST to 8 ball colas, she can handle this, & would negate the height in stretch. I have let these go on their natural path to the sky's !!........... still i topped them early at 21 day's, no issues. but the lower bows shot up filling the canopy.............. and then some......................... so i had to super crop by bending over the bows and mains at 1.4-1.6m above soil.............. only a couple have shown this mega stretch in natural form. i have 4 that are identical in every way at 1.2-1.3 from soil and have 12-16 bows at canopy like a mini cedar set !! 16" long buds building on every upstand................ stunning.

The rate of flower construction is shocking, just gone 5wks into it as we speak now................. and every time i go in there (Once daily) 10 mins before lights on..................... they have "Visually" grown fatter, just about to start the pk13/14 now near 4wks to the 10wks i have set out for flower window during the test grow..................... the mollas carbo boost is somewhat to blame for the quicker building programme !!..................... but still the quickest fill i have ever seen so far, in 5 yrs of growing the Dp kit, with 4.5-5 wks left of fruitification and bud fortification..

And i aint started the Pk boost yet !!..........dropped the Rizo a few weeks back as normal and started the canazym at low levels............ still running a very low Ec as well......(Nute Only mS/Cm1 = (Hanna 0.45) thats a 280ppm cieling !! and 1mm micro tip burn on 50% of Df's.................. so saving nutes atm !!.................... amazing low drinkers to at 5 decilitres (500ml) a day and a spot at the bottom tray from a couple of super lite drinkers as well..... all in 15ltr tall pots, with air holes around them.

The only thing i can predict is this;...................... i can tell a few grams of this will last a long time vaping or other............................ the whole thing in the round cured at 62% Rh..................... is probably going to be the best sativa i have ever combusted. The Df potency with the extra fruiting time, probably 12-14 wks to 40% amber....................... will be powerful to say the least. And the bouquet A Wonder Of Modern Times" for us canna enthusiasts.

They say sativas are best in the hands of experienced growers, i think anyone can bring the best of these out, as long as they are nute savi/sensitive and can read the feed back "Early On"............. this test grow aims to cut a path through this mine field, and give a heads up on these different horticultural requirements of this primordal sativa Df genus..............................

The sativa bows natrually bend right over with the weight of flower so the seeds can be distributed/spread away from the mother plant, a factor of distribution. And are of cource bird gut transit hardy !! and therefore can spread many miles from mum !! i sure would like one of these to pop up in my jarden !!................. however "Autoing It" would dilute it. but would certainly reduce the 300% stretch of these super Dutch dames..........

Currently, similar to Tang............ stunned mates..............if she fill to 100 trichs cm/Sq what a show this will be looking like, "Silver City Strain"............ Autoberry

[Autoberry]

No worries T here is my advice bro for auto's best performance.......

So far, (Tee) I'm about to invest in:
1.2x 1.2m tent with 6inch fan extraction and 2x carbon filters on a 'T' junction, and 4inch intake fan. Will definately need mesh bug screens on both fans. I used to use ladies hoisery
airpots of various sizes.... 8L and 18L I think
H&G coco - prewashed and treated etc....
Coco nutes (prob H&G)
roots exellurator (H&G)
Silica, cal mag, pH up and down

Ans;
1.2x 1.2m tent with 6inch fan extraction and 2x carbon filters on a 'T' junction, and 4inch intake fan. Will definately need mesh bug screens on both fans. I used to use ladies hoisery

fan speed controller or thermo fan with heat sensor low db around 28-32db's use 3 hose layers if using stockings tee....... on air in on y pieces at entry to give flow capacity

airpots of various sizes.... 8L and 18L I think

get 15-or18ltr air pots and fill with 25% coir mixed with 75% low nute compost, seedling or no1 type preferably add good amount of lime free sand, and nothing else Tee.................... it is not good to reuse coir......... and at the summer temps you will be in.offers no stable root temp due to high air flow and to fast a draining capacity T................ root temp protected from high "Diurnal Temp" fluctuations is a good thing T for your sit rep......... plus aids water retention and no speed drying out etc.........

make sure and put beans "Auto" straight into the final pot for germination and cover with cling film untill the yellow seedling pops up under cling film lights on 18/6 3-4ft up the one you are going to use t ok............ the auto will not like repot,........... and is affected % wise by it.......... it is true i can asure you tee no feed for 10-16 days, make ure and soak all areas of the medium wonce seedlings hit 100-150mm and are established......soak to the floor and your away t........... AB

roots exellurator (H&G)

We put this root stim, the best is rizotonic.............. in with ph'ed water fed seperatly do not put in res T feed separately from nute res, later on with carbo boost and cannazym T

Silica, cal mag, pH up and down

Silica from the word go T
cal/mag needed if your tap water has Ec below 0.2-0.3.............. if not just mix ro water with tap to get 250ppm which will cal/mag your water for making res T If you have hard tap water consisting of calcium salts and mag salt as your TDS in ltr 1. This negate the N problems of to much stretch due to N in cal/mag doses T ie tap water buffering has many other benefits cal/mag dont offer...

Ph down veg nitric acid
Ph up silica................... Ph down (res) to 5.8 first add nute to res after Ph'ing......... then slowly bring upto 6.3 in veg and 6.5 in flower with silica ph up.....T condition your TDS water before use as disciplined previous....... get TDS to 250ppm then airate by haliea etc...........

Wonce res is made, use a pump with hose of in bottom of res to "Turn Over" gently before feeding and "Ph Adjusting" just before feeding T..............AB

[Autoberry]

I just had to post this, from Sc........................ it is such a good read................ and off the beaten track as well...................

There aint no way Tony is going to forward me 50 beans of regular PowerPlant................... for the 12/12 from seed experiment, i am going to do next............ so at 1.80Euro a bean i will probably set the Santa maria 75% sativa into the 12/12 system of Sc = SpeeCees of "No MercySeeds.nl santa is 24% on the cromo test...............that will do !!..... me thinks ...........AB

Here is Sc.......... Outlook.............& i will also run the Gibberelic Acid @ day 24-28 just post micro pre sex, after i remove the 10-15% males....................... AB

This guy (SpeeCees) runs regs from hatch on 12/12.................. that means synchronize veg & flower lights, in same room and save 20-25 days............AB

SpeeCees Txt............. from online.......... Please Note........... Post DesFran, This will be the only site i will be using from that point onwards... AB x

There are more advantages. The most striking are a higher yield as a result of the absence of lateral growth, and the fact that the main buds represent 98% of your yield. Because of this flowering pattern you can also keep much more plants on the same surface. But especially being able to reduce your cleaning job by 95% is quite a boon. A seedling germinated and grown under 12 light hours hardly produces buds that need manicuring. Some extremely heavy sativa's (such as Mexican Haze) which normally show a lot of lateral growth may produce some minor side branches in this system. Generally speaking one 600 watt HPS bulb could easily light at least 30 seed plants of an average variety that were germinated under 12 hours of light and were kept that way! In 9 out of 10 cases it won't be necessary to mount a net because seed plants are better anchored, produce few if any side branches, and grow thicker stems than plants grown from cuttings. A couple of fluorescent lights in a corner of your flowering room is sufficient to germinate your seed and allow you to have young plants at your disposal every time you harvest.

Your fluorescent lights are switched on at the same time as your HPS bulbs. The thing to note here is that more than 95% of the usable yield will be produced by the main bud which. Seed plants develop one main bud and therefore require a minimum of space. If you could get seeds at less than half the price you would have to spend on cuttings... than growing from seed is a lot easier and cheaper. If you do it right, you'll get at least 75-80% females from your seed. No searching for cuttings, no pests, no dragging along big soggy boxes, no hassle with growshops, no diseased cuttings, exactly the variety you're after, a truckload less cutting to do... should I go on? And hey... seed is legal and cuttings are not. If you like to know more about growing from seed and/or the 12/12 system, check our forum and you'll find all the information you need. You can have a look at everything without the obligation to log in under your name. It's a fact that we only sell regular seed and no feminised seed. We think only female seed is honest business. At the moment we can not offer female seed, but we're working on it.

So what's the deal with feminised/female seed?
Male seed is genetically XY, female seed is genetically XX and feminised seed is XXY.
To some this may sound a little like jumping to conclusions, because structures develop which we humans still can not understand nor quantify. The fact remains that the difference between female seed and feminised seed is huge.

The Y factor remains hidden within feminised seed's genetics. Because of that Y factor you'll never be certain you will score 100% female plants and/or hermaphrodites always lurk. Just a little stress and you see herma's developing and your room contaminated with seed. As far as I'm concerned there's no doubt the vast majority of European seed banks are about to ruin the available good genetics. Every time a seed bank decides to keep/safeguard a specific variety by storing XXY (feminised) seed... the quality of genetics takes a little step back.

Experienced growers know seed plants usually are a lot stronger than plants grown from cuttings. A seedling has a pen root and a cutting has been tricked into growing emergency rootlets. After all, a climate of 89% humidity and 25°C/77°F that's needed to root cuttings is not exactly something Mother Nature will readily provide a plant with. In nature an annual like cannabis will not start growing new roots once the stem is broken. A seed plant originating from a germination process of 12 hours (I'm referring to the 12-12 hour system we have developed and have been propagating for years) will simply be vigorous and in most cases won't grow side branches, but instead produce one big cola from bottom to top. A cola is a unit of several buds forming one big bud.

In itself hermaphrodites are a natural phenomenon. In nature, when reproduction is theatened, it allows female plants to produce male flowers and thus auto-pollinate. The commercial hemp industry has proven on a grand scale it's possible to genetically fix hermaphroditism.
When I first marketed female (as opposed to feminised) seed 13 years ago there were only a few people who envisioned where this would lead. Jos (the former chief of Top Weert) actually was the first smarty pants that recognised the huge potential. Not one single male has sprouted from the 120.000 seeds I have grown during that period. The many interviews that followed (Highlife, Grow Magazine, Canamo etc.) made several people scratch their heads. The Ministry of Agriculture even gave me a license to produce female industrial hemp seed indoors. Winni of German magazine Grow (grow!: Home) didn't have any confidence this whole female thing would lead anywhere. I was stupid enough to assume that friends and/or people who could think ahead saw the same thing I saw. On the plane to Nepal we even quarreled like little boys. My fanaticism and cast iron vision had developed so far I hardly accepted contradiction. Pigheaded as hell. And Winni, well he's still very much okay, a truely respected human being and a great writer in hour “world of herbs”. A guy who follows the cannabis scene from A to Z, looks for the essence, considers soberly and reports about it as honest and neutral as possible.

But hey, look again... right now, in 2014? Uncle Cees was right again... grinzzz. There is hardly a seed bank to be found that doesn't sell feminised seed! They have been very busy trying to find the way to produce female seed but haven't succeeded. Various people and/or seed merchants knocked on my door. Often they represented some well known seed bank. Yes, also very large seed banks (but serious money was never offered to “get the job done” by those scrapers).

Unfortunately... it took me 14 years to actually be able to produce female seeds... so I decided to keep the formula to myself. But all hell broke loose. Henk van Dalen of Dutch Passion Seeds was the first serious seed bank that marketed 100% female seed. In an interview in Highlife magazine (spring 1999) he said he didn't want to reveal how he produced female seed. He did indicate however they used an aggressive or unnatural substance. He suggested some sort of salty solution. It didn't take long or Dutch Passion rectified as well and said it was feminised seed instead of 100% female seed. In the meanwhile things have quieted down again. The fact that feminised seed did result in a high percentage of female plants slowed down the intensity of the search for 100% female seeds. The consumer pays well for the present concept and is satisfied with the way things are going. And well, that leaves the developing space to the unstoppable pioneers.

It is not a secret I use Gibberalic Acid to manipulate. As far as possible I have always written fair and square what I did and how I did it. In Dutch horticulture Gibberalic Acid has been used for decades, especially in fruit and flower breeding. Gibberalic Acid naturally occurs in plants. Gibberalic Acid is a growth promoting plant hormone that for example is triggered by changes in light duration and amongst others induces the production of growth and/or flowering hormones. Science is not quite sure how to classify Gibberalic Acid. To simply call it a hormone would be out of line.

In the 1969 edition of Mel Frank's Green Guide I read it should be possible to create female seed by using Gibberalic Acid. When it appeared he hadn't succeeded in doing so, I was sold.
Not a day passed without me being occupied with this possibility. It took me 14 long years to actually succeed. After extensive consultations with toxicologist dr Alink from the university of Wageningen I could take off. At the time he was thé authority to turn to when you were insecure about the substance you were working with. I got a unequivocal and written green light that enabled me to work safely with Gibberalic Acid in the concentration I had in mind. The reason for me to take it easy in this regard right now has to do with my private life. I'm glad I learned there is a real world besides the plant. And that was something I really needed. On the other hand... blood is thicker than water. LOL …
The way it really works and the difference between feminised & female seed!

Feminised seed originates from pollen of female plants that in some way (there are many ways) has been stressed in order to induce hermaphrodites. That happens quite often, while cannabis naturally has the hermaphrodite factor in it's genes. In other words, male flowers are called for in a female plant to produce pollen. That's not that difficult to do, and as far as I can see there's way too much paid for the resulting seeds. Seed originating from pollen (XXY) of these cheated female plants is entitled to be called feminised. Take note... the Y factor is still in the game. The fact feminised seed often produces many, or even exclusively female plants, is something that's hidden within nature. Like a female plant “knows” under which circumstances she should produce some male flowers (the hermaphroditism present in the gen) and healthy seed to secure reproduction, she also “knows” (genetic commitment) that she has to produce a lot of females the next round. Before we know exactly how that process works and wise up to it, we'll probably be dead and buried. It's a fact that feminised seed often produces a lot of females. But you know... you don't have that 100% guarantee and very possibly there will be some males. Make sure too not to shock your plants from feminised seed, because hermaphroditism is always lurking round the corner.
Female (100% female) seed is a completely different story. A female plant is called a XX plant. XX signifying female and XY signifying male.

Once you're able to control female flowering hormones in the right manner, without stressing the plant any more, the male flowers that have been produced as a result of a complete “misunderstanding” by the plant, create pollen that is genetically pure XX (see picture). Every healthy female flower that gets pollinated by this pollen will produce 100% female seed. As long as there is only XX in the equation, leaving no room for the Y... it is strictly female. In the past I have tried to stress some pure females that originated from XX pollen... but that only increased the number of herma's.
It may be evident that during this quest seed makers concluded that feminised seed was “good enough” to go ahead, and that's probably a shame. Most of all that progress was financially motivated,as I don't think genetics were very important there. Growers and smokers would welcome a little more candour and a little more selected information; the average grower really doesn't know the difference between feminised and female seed. The seed business sticks to this English term because it's vague, ambivalent and veiling. At a consumer's level there is hardly any information to be found about the difference between female and feminised seed. In my mind there's no doubt that when feminised seed is used in the breeding process, it has a negative influence on genetics. Within canna-world morality usually takes a back seat because money has to be made no matter what. Like anywhere else! And I know, making female seed by using honest manipulation is not that simple at all.

Even I don't succeed more than 2-3 times out of every 10 attempts. Apart from that, the villains are always vigilant. At the time I was living in the province of Zeeland, 170 plants loaded with female seeds were violently ripped from me. Thanks to that rip-off a “Quality” seed company in the Netherlands got very succesful. But hey, actually I was thinking one step ahead already. Hopefully seed farmers realize that maintaining the present seed banks can only be done responsibly by safeguarding the pure lines, without manipulating, and thus free of XXY seed. Time will tell. If you're looking for regular seed that can compete big time with any competition in terms of price and quality I advise you to make inquiries with us: speescees@nomercyseeds.eu or click here for my contact information.

Without exception our regular seed decends from ruthlessly selected plants. Apart from the F1 hybrids they originate from at least six times backcrossing on their progenitors – at least F6. Without exception those progenitors as well originated from seed fixed by inbreeding (to F6) and lengthy, merciless selection, focussed on the good properties as well as vitality. Through the years I learned to appreciate that a little bit of good luck is more than welcome here.
Especially Double Fun (F6), Lucky Queen (F1 Hybrid), Royal Queen (F1 Hybrid) and Santa Maria( F8) are varieties that have proven themselves to us and many growers the last couple of years. It's great we have also grown a variety that was given a name beforehand; it's called GreenLeaf Queen and it originates from 80% Double Fun and 20% Santa Maria. Why deal with GreenLeaf? Well, I really appreciate the things those people are doing, so collaboration is something positive. They want to reach more German speaking people and promote seed. But in Germany that's not allowed. So, other formula.
Don't make a mistake about a well grown F1 hybrid. Often those are the plants with exceptional vigor, the positive result of a cross of two heavily inbred and selected varieties. In other words: F6 x F6 = F1 hybrid.

Sometimes it seems like they received a blood transfusion. There's a good reason why so many F1 hybrids are sold in the commercial flower and vegetable seed business. Double inbreeding, selecting and then crossing after 6-7 generations remains the most succesful formula up to this day. Naturally the parents of that F1 seed remain in the seed bank because breeding from F1 hybrid seed creates a mixture of all kind of things; they are not stable and all sorts of progenitors may show up. From which a seed bank would benefit of course. As far as knowledge is concerned the development of cannabis breeding in the Netherlands levels with that of commerial breeding for agricultural seed stock. Take a look on our website and/or forum. We don't have big glossy brochures, we don't wear company clothing, we hardly give away anything for free, we don't drive flashy cars... but we are the cheapest, hand out reliable information and guarantee our quality. Seed banks that can sell quality seeds to retailers at the prices we sell for, may rise now. On top of that we are easy to reach, can provide you with information 6 days a week by telephone, e-mail, on our website and/or forum. Good seed doesn't need to be expensive.

Our G.A. Special Spray should not be considered a spray to create female seed. During my search for the production of female seed I stumbled into exactly the right dosage of G.A. that stimulates extra lush flowering in cannabis plants. G.A. Spray is nothing more and nothing less than a flowering booster/stimulator. When used stupidly it can even cause hermaphrodites in your garden. So read the info sheet real well just in case!

This is how it works: when our indoor plants are flowering for approximately 22-26 days, they have realised they're not going to get fertilised. Because certain substances are hardly or not at all being used and their cycle takes a different turn than nature had planned, a “switch is flicked” and they are susceptible to fertilisation once more. There's still 12 hours of light, enough nutrition, the soil temperature isn't any cooler and there's plenty of water – all radically different from what a plant would experience outdoors. At this point they once again produce flowering hormones, which take care of the formation of more new buds on top of the existing buds. This is called the secondary internodial flowering. Only plants that are very healthy may show this. A wicked sativa like a Mexican Haze... can produce some 5, 6 or 7 internodes of flowering. It is advisable to harvest haze varieties in stages. Secondary internodial flowering is created by interaction and commands to the plant. Gibberalic Acid is the substance present within the plant that takes care of this communication. It is a matter of making sure there is more of this substance present to give flowering hormones a little more stimulation. It's a fact our G.A. Spray (amongst others) has been copied by several entrepreneurs in our line of business. Whether those imitations contain what they're supposed to contain is highly questionable.

Nice Txt Sc.............. superb.....

Autoberry.......................... das is good djarr........ there are so many advantages & savings to this methodology......... few if none (Disadvantages)....

for me, ... mainly though the 40% increase in dry kit !!..........this txt is not posted on any other site at all, only here.............keep it that way........... !!AB

This is Sc with XX.................... a typical looking "Dutchman".......... who aint scarred to show his face behind his Txt !!......

santa maria 75% Sativa Primordal Strain....... this is in rise and fall table........... i will be in 5ltr soil to the end......... = very easy to turn each day and move quick !!

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60 to 80cm "Max"......... max !!.......... looking very "Efficient"....... and saving "Kw/Hrs"........

Autoberry......nice

[teetee]

Is that Jap Staam hiding behind the bud?

[Autoberry]

Is that Jap Staam hiding behind the bud?

Not sure tee, but he refuses to send seeds to uk ??............. and cant or wont speek any english ??................ who the fuck knows what goes on in the mans head.... i dont......... AB

[Autoberry]

Here is a new bit of scientific canna kit;........................ which improves the overall outcome............... See if you can guess what it dose, or what it is for ???.......

After testing it and building it my self, after testing several different components, this is the final 3.6Ltr version, however a 6.6ltr version will also be available.........

it is amaizing the effect it has !!........................ BUT WHAT DOSE IT DOOO....???...................

This is the first place i have posted it, and the first site to see it on the web, a genuine first. I have named the kit, but that would give it away !!........ in food grade "PE"

The kit aint available anywhere, on the web at the moment, and "Was" a trade secret ~!!.................... Autoberry

A superb bit of kit.............. "For The Canna Connoisseur"

[ledbud]

is some kind co2 kit.

[Autoberry]

Day 79 (11wks) Fwr 49 (7Wks)............. all doing well................. a couple are ripening sooner than others, there fore slowing drinking.......... ec (Nute only) 0.6
Showing 2mm tip burn on a couple....so that is ceiling nute............ the perfume is like nothing else............ 6 days to flush 14 days........ got 4 test nuggs on cure atm AB

A tadd late, this update, but a least i posted the truethfull dates, and not fake made up dates, like "TaNg" the plonker........... any one can figure correct dates.... AB